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"Valentine's Day, 1997"
 
   First - the day before the holiday there was a Press Conference with the following remarks by DA Alex Hunter
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(This is just the tail end of Hunter's speech)
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"I want to say something to the person or persons that committed this crime - the person or persons that took this baby from us. I mentioned the list of suspects narrows. Soon, there will be no one on the list but you. When that time comes, and as I have said to you, that time will come, Chief Koby and I and our people and the Expert Prosecution Task Force and the other resources that we bring together are going to bear down on you. You have stripped us of any mercy that we might have had in the beginning of this investigation. We will see that justice is served in this case, and that you pay for what you did, and we have no doubt that that will happen."
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"You need to know that everyone in America is watching. The death of this child has broken all of our hearts except, apparently, yours. It has left a permanent scar on our conscience. There must be accountability, there is going to be accountability in this case, I promise you. That's my job, to make that prosecution happen, and I say to you, that there will not be any failure in that regard. We will ensure that justice is served for this community, for this nation, and most importantly, for JonBenét. Thank you."

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On Valentine's Day, a redacted copy of the autopsy was released to the public. It revealed some injury to the vagina and the head injury.

Now everyone knew that the killer had sexually assaulted JonBenét. Killer's may get som respect in some circles - - pedophiles don't get respect from anyone.

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Valentine's night, KUSA-TV aired an interview with Dr. Beuf.
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In an interview given to KUSA, pediatrician Francesco Beuf said "I can tell you as far as her medical history is concerned there was never any hint whatsoever of sexual abuse. I didn't see any hint of emotional abuse or physical abuse. She was a very much loved child, just as her brother." Beuf described JonBenét as "just a wonderful, happy kid who had the strength to deal with some very tough situations with regard to her mother's illness."
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Anchor: JonBenet Ramsey's pediatrician says he is convinced she was not sexually abused. And, he says, he told Boulder Police investigators that when they asked him. He said he would only talk with one media person and that person was Paula Woodward.

Woodward: He said he wants the information he has as JonBenet's pediatrician out in the public, but he's appalled by media coverage and so will only talk once. Dr. Francesco Beuf says he saw JonBenet 30 times in 3 years. He said the last time he saw her was five weeks before she died.

Woodward: When you talked with the police, did they ask you about sexual abuse of JonBenet?

Beuf: Yes, of course they did.

Woodward: What did you tell them?

Beuf: I told them absolutely, categorically no. There was absolutely no evidence - either physical or historical.

Woodward: And that's from seeing her 30 times in 3 years?

Beuf: About that.

Woodward: What else did they ask you?

Beuf: Oh, they asked many of the same questions you've been asking: relationship with her parents, what sort of child she was, if there was any indication of depression and sadness.

Woodward: And your answers?

Beuf: Only as appropriate. If she was sick, she wasn't feeling too well. If her mother was off being treated for cancer, she was sad at that.

Woodward: He talked with us in the treatment room where he saw her five weeks before she was killed.

Was she an ordinary kid?

Beuf: No. I think she was extraordinary in the amount of charm that she had. And sweetness was the quality I appreciated most.

Woodward: Where you aware of how much she was in beauty pageants or whether she was?

Beuf: I don't know how much she was in beauty pageants. When she was here, I think I heard it mentioned a couple of times. In the last year that she was doing it, it just wasn't a big deal. The big deal was how she was doing things with her friends here. How she was going to Michigan with her parents. Just the fun things in life. The beauty pageants just didn't seem to be at the top of the heap by any means.

Woodward: Tell me what she said to you.

Beuf: To be honest with you, I can't remember. I just remember it made me feel good to see that much happiness and niceness in one spot.

Woodward: Thirty visits in 3 years. He said her parents were good about getting her in and it wasn't an abnormal amount of visits.

Do you think JonBenet was sexually abused?

Beuf: I do not think she was sexually abused. I am convinced she wasn't sexually abused.

Woodward: Dr. Beuf also treats JonBenet's 10 year old brother Burke Ramsey. He describes him as a neat kid. Likes to play video games. That he's very bright and trying hard to deal with something he can't fully understand yet. Dr. Beuf says Burke Ramsey is just another nice kid whom he likes.

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1. "RE: Valentine's Day, 1997"
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   Other information found in the TimeLine for that week...

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CBI lab results
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No fingerprints on paintbrush
No fingerprints on black duct tape
pineapple bowl - one Burke print, one Patsy
drinking glass - three Burke prints
On doors - several from the Ramseys, one from Barbara Fernie, one unidentified fingerprint
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February 14th
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Michael Helgoth, age 26, was found dead in his bedroom. He had been shot in the chest and it was termed a suicide. There were a pair of High-tech boots by the body, a stun gun lay on the bed and there was a tape recorder nearby. The coroner called the sheriff. The sheriff requested that the BPD do some investigating, but the BPD refused to get involved. The family was not questioned about "Boots'" possible involvement in the Ramsey case. A friend of Boots called the authorities and said he felt there was a reason for the authorities to seriously investigate the lead. The police refused. More than 3 years later, in July of 2000, the friend would give the boots and other materials to the Ramsey investigators. When the city was going to demolish the house (for a park) and not search, the friend broke into the house to gather possible evidence, was put off by the police then arrested!
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Still, in the summer of 2000, the police were forced to give the boots to the CBI for examination and the media picked up the story on the "suspect" who was never investigated - the reason never explained by the authorities.
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February 15th
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Detectives Thomas and Gosage were in Atlanta and interviewed Lucinda's friend, Harry Smiles, as well as Ramsey friends Susan and Gary Sperduto, Carol and Bill Simpson, and Annis Westmoreland Lyles.
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By mid February, the authorities were aware of the fact that there were few unmatched prints to be found at the crime scene. The killer may have worn gloves. The CBI and FBI found no fingerprints on the duct tape or paint brush, none on the flashlight found in the kitchen, or even on the batteries found in the flashlight. There was a bowl of pineapple found on the dining room table - no one knows if the killer touched that bowl - the only prints on it were from Patsy and Burke. A cup was next to the bowl - - only Burke's prints were on the glass.
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There was an unidentified palm print on the door in the basement. It would still be unidentified 4 years later. The public had no way to know if it was connected to the murder.
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The authorities were also aware that there was foreign DNA found mixed with JonBenét's blood in her panties. It would not match her parents' DNA. It would always pose a problem for the BORG BPD and media.
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February 16th
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At the Roswell Police Department, Detective Thomas interviewed Pam Paugh, Polly Davis and their mother, Nedra Paugh.
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Charlie Brennan, reporter for the Rocky Mountain News, announced that Geraldo Rivera would be going to Boulder to tape his talk show. The story said he would be taping a show at Pasta Jay's restaurant. It never happened that way - Pasta Jay did not want the dubious honor and declined the offer. Geraldo did go to Boulder, and taped two shows from the lobby of the Alps Boulder Canyon Inn.
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2. "RE: Valentine's Day, 1997"
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   "I want to say something to the person or persons that committed this crime - the person or persons that took this baby from us. I mentioned the list of suspects narrows. Soon, there will be no one on the list but you."

This was a small segment of one of the many TV specials, I think it was part of the Tracy documentary. On one of those shows, a voice over narration addec a comment that "everyone knew he was speaking to the parents" when he said this.

I wonder how many here really see this statement as being directed at any particular person. My personal views on this is that nothing really indicates a bias toward the intruder, but want to know the reactions of others.


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3. "RE: Valentine's Day, 1997"
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   "everyone knew he was speaking to the parents" when he said this.

That's how the media reported it - - remember this was during the period when the BPD was trying to throw a scare into the Ramseys - - lying about things, suggesting they had the goods on the parents where there was nothing there.

I think they were lying to Hunter as wwell as to the media - - but I have no evidence of that.... just something I believe based on many things that happened after.


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4. "ironic?"
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   Now seven years later and with 20-20 hindsight, Hunter's statement - so very strongly worded and so terribly overly confident - seems so ironic (help me find the better word?).

Could Hunter not then see ahead or be worried about the possibility of the disastrous harm to come, that Steve Thomas and friends would cause to the investigation? See or be worried that BPD would turn the investigation into one of the great failures by a police department, and a failure that would take place under the bright glare of national media and cause intense distress and harm to an innocent family traumatized and harmed by the murder of their precious child?

Only Hunter, or those allowed to know this thinking at that time, can tell if his statement was directed at the Ramseys. Why so confident so early on when they really had completed very, very little investigative work? That does suggest the knee-jerk reaction towards the Ramseys.

And also there may have been another knee-jerk reaction in another part of the town, IF Boots was involved or knew something....


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5. "Hunter's bluff...."
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   I think Hunter was only bluffing when he said they were closing in...hoping he could smoke someone out (I think at that time, he thought it might be a Ramsey).


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6. "The tape recorder in Helgoth's"
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   room. That seems a bit unusual. Could someone have removed a tape recorded message?


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7. "RE: The tape recorder in Helgoth's"
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   Who knows? The BPD didn't think it was interesting - they refused to investigate that situation with an eye to possible involvement in the Ramsey case.

IF Helgoth did it - I hope the new investigators can find the evidence to prove it - announce it and end this.

So far no word so I suspect Helgoth is not the source of the DNA. But that doesn't mean he might not have known what really happened that night - that could have been part of the reason he died as he did.


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8. "RE: The tape recorder in Helgoth's"
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   >...
>So far no word so.....

Maybe it is going to take some nudging or pushing on the problem, or maybe even a really strong jab by Lin Wood.

Although I think Keenan's intentions seem good, I also believe there is incredible inertia in place in perfect Boulder regarding JonBenet's murder and other murders there. Boulder does not want JonBenet's murder solved or the killer found. This is "Chamber of Commerce Boulder." They just want it all to go away. The same for Susannah Chase's murder and others'.

Sometimes I wish God would put the force of a horrific Chinook wind or the 100 years' flood that is talked about through Boulder to move the citizens to really want do right. Wasn't it written, "Vengeance is mine, saith the Lord." I think not only vengeance for the perp who goes unpunished but also for those who care nothing and let perps roam to kill again. And I can't help but wish that God wouldn't at least double his vengeance for those who care nothing and let perps who mercilessly kill children wander about and go free.......

But it isn't up to me. It's up to Him. I should curb my wishing, and instead just pray to God to be with Boulder. Because vengeance is His, not mine. And only His mercy and goodness will solve JonBenet's murder, find her killer, and bring closure.

And so now Keenan and Company have to be busy over the sex parties athletics-junk. Not much room or time for Keenan's team to be finding child murderers and the murderers of young women, including Susannah Chase.....


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9. "Why would a tape recorder"
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   be in the picture? We may never know the answer to that, but it's strange that the tape recorder, stun gun, and Hi-Tec boots were all in the picture. If he taped a suicide farewell, why wouldn't the tape have been in the recorder? And then there's that video tape that had a clip on it from the murder of that other little girl that was found.


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10. "Maikai, the other video tape?"
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   >be in the picture? We may never know the answer to that,
>but it's strange that the tape recorder, stun gun, and
>Hi-Tec boots were all in the picture. If he taped a suicide
>farewell, why wouldn't the tape have been in the recorder?
>And then there's that video tape that had a clip on it from
>the murder of that other little girl that was found.

Maikai,

Please, say more about the "video tape that had clip on it from the murder of that other little girl that was found"? Was this something like a video of a news report about Lucy? Or something else.

Also, I don't remember reading about a tape not being in a tape recorder found close by. Is there some old thread on this that I missed? Thanks.


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11. "Saluda...I hadn't heard about the"
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   tape recorder before---so that's news to me. I don't know if there was a tape in it or not---but some people do tape record messages before they commit suicide.

About all I remember about the other little girl, was it was a news clip---she was found dead----and I don't think they ever found her killer. The newsclip appeared on the tape in amongst other things.


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