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#0, Aerial photo Posted by jameson on Apr-27-03 at 03:46 PM LAST EDITED ON May-03-03 AT 02:04 PM (EST) why_nut wrote The little-seen photo below gives the best view of the house and its surroundings to date, and it was taken shortly after JonBenet's death, so it is a good representation of the state of property. It gives quite a perspective on the fact that the Brumfitt house (seen in the lower right) and the Gibbons house (seen in the upper left) were right next to any pathway an intruder would have to take. Gibbons had a good view of an intruder's entrance from the back alley, and Brumfitt had an excellent view of an exit from the butler's door, in addition to being nearer the potential source of the sound of a bat hitting concrete than anyone, certainly better than Melody Stanton. Actually, you can see the Ramsey house - and Scott Gibbons' house is the one on the lower right side. He could see the kitchen window from his house, and the butler door. He reported the lights were on in the kitchen that night when he was up - - but they were different - lower somehow. I think the killer had closed the shutters. The following photo was taken from Scott's yard - - my back pressed against his house, the window just above my head. The next photos don't want to show up so please go to the URL - - just take out the spaces after the http http ://jameson245_archive.tripod.com/JCn3RS.jpg View from Scott's house - - he reported the butler door wide open sometime during the morning of the 26th - before the detectives arrives, I believe. The Brumfitt house can't be seen - - it would be in the lower left side of the photo - but it is not shown there. I stood in their yard, back pressed against the house and took photos from under the windows on the side of the house facing the Ramseys'. Their view is NOT unobstructed and clear. To watch someone over there, they would have to be paying attention - a LOT. http ://jameson245_archive.tripod.com/winter-south2RS.jpg view from Brumfitt kitchen http ://jameson245_archive.tripod.com/winter-south3RS.jpg view from the Brumfitt room where the boys watched TV and played games until late Christmas night. #1, The neighborhood is Posted by Maikai on May-01-03 at 01:49 AM In response to message #0 VERY dark at night.....very low level street lighting....and I don't recall any lights in the alley. There's also a lot of trees is the yards, which really don't show up that well in the aerial. Unless the neighbors were sitting at their windows, looking at the Ramsey house for hours on end, they wouldn't notice anyone going into the Ramsey house. #2, Maikai Posted by why_nut on May-01-03 at 07:18 AM In response to message #1 VERY dark at night.....very low level street lighting....and I don't recall any lights in the alley. There's also a lot of trees is the yards, which really don't show up that well in the aerial. If your visit to the house was after 1997, then you were not seeing the house as it was in December 1996. Many trees were added to the property in February of 1998 to block views of the house from the street and discourage tourists. #3, Whynut..... Posted by Maikai on May-01-03 at 07:41 AM In response to message #2 Yes, it was after l997. They only added trees to the front. There were a lot of trees on the sides. Overall, the neighborhood was very very dark---maybe a Boulder thing to save energy----the street lights were very dim. There was a house on the corner that had a lot of lights in the backyard----do not know if those were added after 1996. #4, RE: Maikai Posted by NancyDrew on May-03-03 at 02:09 AM In response to message #2 No kidding about the trees. When I visited CO a few years ago, I practically drove right by the house cuz it looked NOTHING like the photos we've all seen. Big, tall trees RIGHT there in your face so you had to look around them to actually see that it was the former Ramsey house. VERY creepy.