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#0, Where are the books?
Posted by jameson on Jan-26-04 at 01:59 PM
Just got an email with an interesting question included...

Has anyone heard when Tom Miller's (aka Mr. Judith Phillips) book will be published? It was supposed to be titled "Murder In Small Places."

Do you think Miller and Rita Johnson will hold a joint press conference announcing their publications?

Enquiring people want to know!{/b]

I responded that I would be posting the question - not saying where it came from.

I think a book with a chapter from each peripheral character might be interesting - but I don't see any new books being published as things are now.

Miller has been silent for a LONG time. I don't think he will be publishing a book on Ramsey. Others who said they were writing books have been just as quiet.

Peggy Lakin's book was, IMO, unimportant and unenlightening - I don't think it needs to be included in any honest list.

When Rita's book is not in the bookstores in 34 days Rose will owe me $20.

Anyone else writing a book?


#1, RE: Where are the books?
Posted by jameson on Jan-27-04 at 04:11 PM
In response to message #0
Update- -

Rose wants me to make a 20 dollar donation to the Polly Klaas Foundation if Rita's book is in bookstores - where we can all buy it - by march 1st.

When it does NOT appear, she is obligated to make a $20 donation to the Shriner's Burn Center in South Carolina.

I suggested that when the book is not available, RITA should make the donation to the Polly Klaas Foundation - - seems fair to me.

What do you think?

Rita says her book will be out by March 1st. Still won't name her publisher. I feel certain that if she had a publisher and a release date we would know it by now. I think she is a liar.

But if her book does come out I am going to be obligated to buy a copy so I can write up a review, maybe take the time to publish a companion like I did for Steve Thomas' book.

She'd be thrilled, I am sure. (not)

Then we would all get to wait until Lin files a suit - and wait and wait - he does all things in his own time - something we have all had to deal with.


#2, RE: Where are the books?
Posted by jameson on Jan-28-04 at 10:37 AM
In response to message #1
1st: The award for first into print with a book about the Kobe Bryant case goes to Jeff Shapiro, a former tabloid reporter who gained notoriety during the JonBenet Ramsey case. The book is self-published, and Shapiro will distribute copies Monday at Bryant's hearing in Eagle.

Jeff had written - at least he had a good start on - a Ramsey book.

I wonder why he didn't self-publish THAT.

Hmmmm

Maybe soon....


#3, RE: Where are the books?
Posted by jameson on Jan-28-04 at 12:03 PM
In response to message #0
Rita shared the cost of her "book" - $24.95.

To begin with, I don't think she has a publisher, but if she actually does have a book written,and there is a publisher - and if it does appear in the stores in February....

I hate to part with that kind of money for her book, but I will because it is necessary if i intend to study everything there is related to this case.

I intend to buy it, study it and report on what I find.

Rita says she can't talk about the book because her publisher is anxious to be "careful", I think that is silly. She shared a redacted Introduction - - which legally is OK to comment on here. She says the book has been vetted by lawyers - - so I ask, "What's the problem?"

Rose herself asked how Rita could consider the posters as being "pushy" when this book was promised years ago. I agree with Rose - "... this is getting to the point of being ridiculous now."

But the forum is here, I am snowed in as are many others - so how about a run at the Introduction?


Let's go!


#4, Intro 1 Title
Posted by jameson on Jan-28-04 at 12:11 PM
In response to message #3
Whatever Happened to baby JonBenét?
In the Evil Mansion on 15th Street

A True Story of Murder, Mystery, Sex, Scandal, Conspiracy, Compulsion,
Exploitation and Sins Against Our Children.

by Rita Johnson

The investigators know what caused Jonbenét's death - even they don't pretend to know everything that happened that night - - but Rita is going to enlighten us. I hardly think so. I think she is just going to fill a book with rumors and innuendo - pity the poor reader who is left trying to sort them out - - especially if they don't know the real history between Rita and the case.


#5, come in
Posted by jameson on Jan-28-04 at 12:16 PM
In response to message #4
Rita invites the reader to "Become an active participant as
judge and jury; rendering an opinion in the trial of the century."

Sadly, she doesn't inform the readers that she, like Michael Kane and Steve Thomas before her, has an agenda - - to push her own theory. Rita will be, as far as I can tell, a prosecutor writing the book - no defense allowed.


#6, RE: come in
Posted by jameson on Jan-28-04 at 12:27 PM
In response to message #5
Hints of conspiracy!

Rita wrote - - and forgive the redactions, they are hers, not mine...

Although it hardly seems possible in this day and time that murderers can evade prosecution and detection; I assure you they can. Sometimes they even get help from those charged with carrying out the law. You are about to enter the mystifying world of JonBenét,
and her parents who stand publicly accused of killing her. It would
be hard to write a chilling thriller more sickening than the true
account of what happened to this precious little child. It would
be impossible to create a scenario of secret societies and an elite conspiracy willing to XXX from prosecution, even with the wildest of imaginations.

I already have a problem with the book. A federal judge and the DA have both publicly stated that the evidence points to an intruder. We all know the case is in the hands of a special investigator and the parents are NOT the focus of the investigation. We all know that great hope has been put in the DNA evidence that has been accepted in the CODIS databank.

But Rita puts the parents out there as "her parents who stand publicly accused of killing her" - - that seems wrong to me. I believe if that stands as is in the book, a jury will see it the same way I do - - misleading, defamatory and libel.

Yes, Rita and some other BORG still say the parents did it - but in the grand scheme of things - - they are misleading people by doing so because the evidence (as reported by LE and the courts) say the evidence is NOT enough to name the parents as killers - - the weight says they are innocent.


#8, victory
Posted by jameson on Jan-28-04 at 12:41 PM
In response to message #6
Rita wrote, "A victory is hollow unless it has meaning for the victim. Your verdict will bring about peace at last for a little girl who screamed out in the dead of night and whose screams were never heard."

I disagree. Jonbenét is at peace - her suffering has ended. period.

Victory here - finding her killer and bringing him to justice - will not give her peace but it could save another child from a similar end.

As for Jonbenét and her scream, it would appear one person DID hear her scream - and chose to ignore it. Melody Stanton.


#7, RE: Where are the books?
Posted by jameson on Jan-28-04 at 12:36 PM
In response to message #0
Rita wrote, "one day, I had a stunning realization. Smit believed the Ramseys, John and Patsy were the real victims."

I have a one-word response to that - - BULLSHIT!

Lou carried photos of the victims in his pocket - - Jonbenét is there along with others - I have seen them, it is a heartbreaking collection.

John and Patsy are not there.

Lou believes John and Patsy are innocent - - but he is working for the victim - JonBenét.

I hope one day he writes HIS story. Some things that have (and have not) happened will stun you if he puts his story into words. Have no doubt that he works for Justice and JonBenét, no one else.


#9, Rita on her book
Posted by jameson on Jan-28-04 at 12:49 PM
In response to message #7
"It is not a fictionalization of the JonBenét murder case,
sadly it is all true. It is a work based on real information about real
interrogations, the autopsy report, police reports, real depositions,
the bizarre ransom note, and interviews conducted with hundreds of
individuals. It represents thousands of hours of interviews conducted over a four-year period of time. The extensive dialogue is reconstructed from the best memory of those involved and, where ever possible, was carefully cross-checked with documents, testimony, and other reliable
sources."

I think Lin Wood is gonna love cross-checking her "facts".

She is basing her book on her interpretation of someone else's memories... tricky business, a bit dangerous when it gets time for lawsuits. After all, Rita was not here in the beginning - - she was not in many situations where she herself saw anything...

More important, she does not have access to all the case documents. As I remember, part of the reason her book was not published in 2002 was the release of the AMI book. If I were to start releasing more documents, would the book be put off again? I think so. I think Rita and her publisher (if there really is one) know they are taking a great risk. Huge.

Bottom line, Rita knows there is a lot of information she has no access to - and I believe she is being negligent by writing a book without those sources. Her publisher - if one exists - has more to lose than Rita.

I really think this Introduction clearly shows there are problems.


#10, RE: Rita on her book
Posted by jameson on Jan-28-04 at 12:59 PM
In response to message #9
"Considerable time was spent on the internet to determine the
effect of the World Wide Web in the dissemination and assimilation of vital information and propaganda."

Michael Tracey said something about a book on that same subject. Somehow I don't think they will be anything alike. *grin*

"Additionally, I was able to build ongoing relationships with insiders from police, to psychiatrists, linguists, former friends, suspects, victims and forensic experts as well. They gave their time and expertise to assist in bringing about justice for a little girl that none of us really knew. None of us except XXX who had a hard time reconciling the JonnieB she knew from the alluring little sex goddess created by XXX."

Interesting - this lawsuit should allow Lin to depose police, psychiatrists, linguists, (please let that be Don Foster!) former friends, (note the FORMER") suspects, victims and forensic experts. I can hardly wait.

In the last sentence, I think I can fill in the blanks:

None of us except Judith Phillips who had a hard time reconciling the JonnieB she knew from the alluring little sex goddess created by John and Patsy."

We all know about judith. She was not a close friend - was not at the party on the 23rd, didn't go to the funeral in Atlanta, was not called to aid the ramseys after the murder... she sold photos to the tabs and was considered a traiter by the Ramseys...

What is interesting is that the first public statements she made were in support of the Ramseys but after the Ramseys distanced themselves from her - after the tabloid people befriended her - she jumped the fence and later was sure Patsy was involved - they were horrid people, didn't have the right values, didn't recycle properly... (The interview she did with Mame actually included that bit of flotsam.)


#12, TRASH!
Posted by jameson on Jan-28-04 at 01:15 PM
In response to message #10
" More than six years have passed and still nobody seems to have the
answer to what happened to little JonnieB. John and Patsy Ramsey, her
parents, remain to this very day under an umbrella of suspicion. They
stand alone and vilified, living a life of quiet desperation. They too are now the victims. Victims of a self-imposed prison from which they
cannot escape. You will help them too. Without full disclosure, the
Ramseys will never be free people, even though they remain free from arrest."


Yes, some BORG insist the parents are guilty, but the Ramseys don't live with that guilt and they have said many times that people do NOT go up to them and call them murderers - - people tend to be kind and supportive.

Yes, John has not had a real job since the murder - and that has to be hard - - but they are not destitute, they aren't going hungry or giving up on their hobbies. Patsy, for instance, still enjoys renovating houses - and I am not talking about a can of Sherwin-Williams paint.

The Ramseys lead full lives. They have family - family gatherings, births, deaths, parties, achievements to celebrate... They have friends - they are always on the run meeting someone for breakfast or lunch, going to someone's house to see renovations, helping at times. Burke is growing and active and the Ramseys are active in his life, in the communtiy. They have hobbies and John does have work.

The Ramseys do not live as hermits, they are not desperate people who walk around in misery.

As much as the BORG would like to think the Ramseys are absolutely miserable, they are not.

Life does go on after a tragedy - - that's a fact.


#11, RE: Rita on her book
Posted by Margoo on Jan-28-04 at 01:03 PM
In response to message #9
I really think this Introduction clearly shows there are problems.

Yep, there are problems. She can't write. Rita wouldn't make the first cut if there were an American Idol in Writing. She can't write and she can't get the 'lyrics' right.

I foresee more problems here than poor old Steve Thomas had. Perhaps Rita's publisher should contact his publisher to check out a ballpark figure as to how much this is going to cost them.


#13, RE: Rita on her book
Posted by jameson on Jan-28-04 at 01:25 PM
In response to message #11
Rita won't tell anyone who her publisher is - not even her good friend Rose.

If her publisher is paying any attention at all to what is going on in the ramsey case, that publisher will shut the door tight and block Rita's phone calls.


#14, GOOD GRIEF
Posted by jameson on Jan-28-04 at 01:34 PM
In response to message #0
LAST EDITED ON Jan-28-04 AT 03:01 PM (EST)
 
Rita wrote, "I decided to write this book just after I finished reading Who Will Speak For JonBenét by forensic psychiatrist Dr. Andrew Hodges. His book along with all the others had a profound effect on me."

If anyone reads his books and accept his theories as worthy of respect - - PLEASE get help or consider moving to Siberia where others won't have to deal with you.

Hodges is a very sorry character - I believe that. Sorry, sad, pathetic.

An autobiography by him would be, I think, best left unread.

later she says "After many conversations with Dr. Hodges, I decided to speak on JonBenét's behalf."

With a cheerleading team made up of people like Hodges and Foster, what do you REALLY think the book will be like?


#15, I disagree
Posted by jameson on Jan-28-04 at 01:45 PM
In response to message #0
Rita wrote,"The parents, their attorney, and what has become known as Team Ramsey seemed willing to go to any lengths in an attempt to exonerate themselves and clear their names."

Personally, I thought the Ramseys were overly retiring. I knew of several situations where the Ramseys remained silent- and I couldn't understand why they were NOT making calls, meeting people, bringing the information to the public.

And I will say the term "Team Ramsey" is really misleading - - there never was a "team' that met and planned strategy or shared information. There was always a bunch of supporters who simply did their own thing. Some publicly, others quietly, some silently.

But it will be interesting to see what Rita THINKS was happening.

And it will be more interesting to see her explain why when Lin deposes her.


#16, LOL
Posted by jameson on Jan-28-04 at 02:01 PM
In response to message #15
I think Rits is saying this is her job - - " Someone had to be willing to provide all the facts, rumors, plots and innuendoes in one place, so the truth would be revealed."

Rita doesn't have access to all thos things - while the BORG seems willing to talk to her - and she is clearly buying into their myths - she sure isn't getting input from the other side.

Rita is NOT highly respected by people I have spoken to - - and that will ultimately guarantee that any book she writes will NOT be a true and complete picture.


#17, absolute garbage
Posted by jameson on Jan-28-04 at 02:13 PM
In response to message #0
I was with Rita the day she met John Ramsey. From what both Rita and Patsy told me that day, that was the ONLY time Rita met John.

This was YEARS after the murder - the Ramseys were living in Atlanta and things had been going well for them. The GJ was over, the story was dwindling in the media.

Rita wrote "Torn between giving up and keeping up the fight is a daily struggle."

Nah - not so. Untrue. The worst had passed. The Ramseys carried the pain but they weren't on the brink of 'giving up" - Rita is misleading and painting a picture using false colors.


#18, RE: Where are the books?
Posted by jameson on Jan-28-04 at 02:32 PM
In response to message #0
Ya gotta love it!

Rita wrote -
"The Boulder DA, Mary Keenan, has gone on the record stating that she is
focusing the current investigation on finding the infamous intruder."

Considering the FACT that Rita included that in the Introduction she sent Rose and allowed Rose to publish, I think it will be difficult for her to defend her book if it is published and accuses Patsy and John of being implicated in the crime.

I don't think it will be difficult to prove Rita carefully decided what information she would accept as real in HER book - - and I think when EVERYTHING comes out (yes, Rita isn't sharing everything - not by along shot) Lin will even have a jury convinced Rita was acting with malice when she wrote her book.


#19, hmmmm
Posted by jameson on Jan-28-04 at 03:12 PM
In response to message #18
Rita claims she almost died in December of 1996 - she lived and the reason, in her mind, is linked to this case.

Personally I doubt it but - - what the hell, we all get to have an opinion.

According to Rita, the key piece of evidence is the ransom note - just "...waiting for someone with the expertise and knowledge to properly interpret it."

She continues with this - "Someone has come forward, but because of the refusal and/or inability to authorities to solve the case, his expertise was not welcomed."

I wonder if she means Hodges or Foster or both - - but no matter in the long run, both have had their say and been deemed - - - useless to this investigation.

Rita wrote, "All the Ramsey money cannot change the unquestionable fact of the ransom note, or the seemingly guilty verdict from the court of public opinion."

I say "All the BORG lies cannot change the fact that the handwriting evidence says the parents did not write the ransom note, that the family did not own the stun gun, cord and tape that were used to torture and kill JonBenét, that the DNA found on the body did not belong to the family - - and the fact that the "seemingly guilty verdict from the court of public opinion" is no longer as solid as it was a year ago. The fact is, the DA has made it clear thatthe weight of the evidence points away from the parents - directly toward an intruder."


#20, RE: hmmmm
Posted by jameson on Jan-28-04 at 03:17 PM
In response to message #19
Semantics at work..."As time progressed, I followed every twist and turn of the case. I met JonBenét's parents and painted with her mother, and often visited her tiny grave."

Rita met Patsy in a store, phoned her a few times and saw her on one other occasion. They were not "friends" by any means. Rita was there intending to hurt the Ramseys. That was the reason for the contact and her intention and everything she did was tainted by that motive.

Rita has visited the grave often - and written about those visits. She finds fault at how it looks, how it is maintained. She watches it on occasion just to see who might show up. She has her own motives - and i think they are not honorable.


#21, Bullshit
Posted by jameson on Jan-28-04 at 03:20 PM
In response to message #20
Rita wrote, "I became strangely connected to those who seemed to be
protecting the Ramseys and observed strange goings on that began to haunt me."

Connected? She's strange, but hardly "connected" to any of the RST.

"More so ironic was that this book was delayed and delayed until after
Judge Carnes momentous decision, without which the whole truth could not
be understood. Thankfully, I didn't fight the inevitable. Had I done
so, this book would have been finished just prior to the interrogation
tapes being released, and Mary Keenan announcing that she was siding
with Carnes in favor of a mysterious intruder as the XXX for
JonBenét's murder."

Rita, hate to burst your delusion bubble, but the whole truth is still not out there - you understand NOTHING.


#22, The core of the book
Posted by jameson on Jan-28-04 at 03:29 PM
In response to message #21
the theme to the Twilight Zone should be playing int he background at this point. Rita has "connected" with Patsy - and she understands everything. Any mother like Rita - and Patsy - just has such a motherly instinct that...

well, what the Hell, read it for yourselves.

"I was feeling all the chilling emotions that
were running through Patsy's body. It became so easy for me to read
between the lines, and see and hear the truth amidst all the chaos. I
just kept thinking that Patsy, being as emotionally close as she was to JonBenét, that bells would have gone off as her baby was being sexually molested and viciously killed. Surely Patsy would be able to sense JonBenét's impending danger, and wake up in time to intervene. Those thoughts just kept going through my head. I couldn't imagine how it could have happened without someone in the family waking up, especially, Patsy. Surely one of the three people who supposedly slept would have been awakened by the eerie feeling that a monster was sucking the very life out of their little baby girl."

I know there are lots of stories about people sensing someone else's death - but I also know that most people are absolutely SHOCKED to get that call - or that knock on the door.

Rita would like to feel she is a great mother and she knows all and .... but I met her and as I judge her she is absolutely not any role model for anyone at any level.

I came home and told my family about meeting Rita - I believe I told them she was more likely to fit in with Mervin and LHP than with the Ramseys. JMVHO but i stand by it.


#23, RE: The core of the book
Posted by jameson on Jan-28-04 at 03:39 PM
In response to message #22
Rita twists what she doesn't understand in this part...

First she described the Ramsey family - - everyone happy, getting along, a close family. then, after the murder, according to Rita, this:

"Something had gone horribly wrong for the family and their All-American image. The XXX disappears from sight, never saying a word, the XXX never XXX, and the questions about the parents involvement, refused to go away. The world was treated to a sensational story ..."

I believe Rita is citing the BORG's unhappinesswith the family's silence. Don Paugh was silent, Polly was silent except with Linda Mclean. Melinda and John Andrew never went on TV except during the Mills/Tracey doc - - and they didn't give interviews except to Linda Mclean for her book.

When they DID speak - they totally supported John and Patsy - - but the BORG wanted to see them squirm under BORG questions - - and when they refused to play into that, the BORG attacked like their few statements were nonexistant - like they were not supporting J&P - like they were either covering or ashamed.

Rita will have a very difficult time defending this garbage in court. The statements ARE out there - and while the ramseys were certainly hurt by the crime and the media attacks that followed, their family did NOT dissolve - and this is one example of how I think Rita will twist things - - and an example of why she will face lin in court and lose a suit.

(The obvious way to avoid that is to write that everything is her opinion based on limited information and her imagination. Then it is protected public speech. Shameful, but legal as can be.)


#24, RE: Speaking of publishers
Posted by Evening2 on Jan-28-04 at 07:12 PM
In response to message #23
You know what seems odd, to me, is that Janet McReynold's play, "Hey, Rube" has not been published. I remember her saying if anyone wanted to publish it,,,,I find it very hard to believe that a publisher wouldn't be interested,,,,maybe she just doesn't want it published.

#25, RE: Speaking of publishers
Posted by jameson on Jan-28-04 at 07:31 PM
In response to message #24
The play sucked. I can see why no one wants to pay her for it. My question is why she isn't publishing it herself - with online publishing it wouldn't cost her anything and she might make a buck or two.

#26, RE: Speaking of publishers
Posted by Evening2 on Jan-28-04 at 08:02 PM
In response to message #25
Maybe she doesn't want anyone to be able to compare the writing style (syntax) in the play and the ransom note.

#27, RE: Speaking of publishers
Posted by jameson on Jan-28-04 at 10:07 PM
In response to message #26
The cops had a copy and I know the Ramsey investigators do as well.

PI Pete Peterson is the only person I know who worked on this case and left totally convinced that the Santas were involved. he said the handwriting damples he had gotten were a match and he said he had other evidence - - - but when push came to shove he refused to share that with anyone. He disappeared.

I would like to see his files - - guarantee they would be more interesting than the play.


#28, RE: Speaking of publishers
Posted by Ashley on Jan-28-04 at 10:40 PM
In response to message #27
Well, maybe in a perfect world we would all be able to sense when one of our loved one's is in danger and RUN to their rescue.

But that is NOT reality Rita, dear.

I do beleive Patsy had some sort of premonition when she put JB's doll in the box. But how was she too know what lied ahead for her precious baby. If we could all know the future, then there would be no tragedies ever. Wouldn't that be nice.

Rita, GET REAL. You are in the Twilight zone.


#29, RE: Speaking of publishers
Posted by Margoo on Jan-30-04 at 01:43 PM
In response to message #28
WOW! I was just reading the first chapter of Little's book, and while reading the first paragraph decided to count the number of rooms in my house --- SIXTEEN! I must live in a mansion!!

#30, Rita and grave watching
Posted by one_eyed Jack on Jan-30-04 at 02:04 PM
In response to message #29
"Rita has visited the grave often - and written about those visits. She finds fault at how it looks, how it is maintained. She watches it on occasion just to see who might show up. She has her own motives - and i think they are not honorable."

If the offender visited the grave right in front of Rita's eyes, she wouldn't see a thing because it wasn't a Ramsey.


#31, supernatural cognition
Posted by one_eyed Jack on Jan-30-04 at 02:23 PM
In response to message #30
"I was feeling all the chilling emotions that
were running through Patsy's body. It became so easy for me to read
between the lines, and see and hear the truth amidst all the chaos. I
just kept thinking that Patsy, being as emotionally close as she was to JonBenét, that bells would have gone off as her baby was being sexually molested and viciously killed. Surely Patsy would be able to sense JonBenét's impending danger, and wake up in time to intervene. Those thoughts just kept going through my head. I couldn't imagine how it could have happened without someone in the family waking up, especially, Patsy. Surely one of the three people who supposedly slept would have been awakened by the eerie feeling that a monster was sucking the very life out of their little baby girl."

What a hurtful pile of horse manure. I wonder if Rita realizes how many times JonBenét's parents have wished they had that kind of "knowing." Wouldn't it be nice if we all could "know" a loved one is in danger and ride to the rescue? I am just shocked to hear some of these types of judgements made from the warmth and security of an armchair.

I don't know how helpful it would be for Lin Wood to depose Rita. She doesn't seem to know a thing.


#32, RE: Where are the books?
Posted by jameson on Feb-13-04 at 03:53 PM
In response to message #0
Rose posted, "I am announcing that as of today, the conversations between Rita Johnson and I have ceased on all levels, and I have had no inclination to believe at this time that her book will be a reality this month, or any other for that matter."

I think Rose is right - there is no reason to believe there is a real book.


#33, RE: Here's a new book!
Posted by Evening2 on Feb-13-04 at 04:11 PM
In response to message #32
Janet McReynolds wrote a book of poems published by Lost River Press, her husband's publishing company (or so it seems) in October 2003,,,it sells for $12.00. Maybe if someone has it we could discuss its contents. For more information, email william.mcreynolds@verizon.net.

#34, Rose
Posted by Justice_seeker on Feb-14-04 at 03:07 AM
In response to message #33
Rose said: "I am announcing that as of today, the conversations between Rita Johnson and I have ceased on all levels, and I have had no inclination to believe at this time that her book will be a reality this month, or any other for that matter."

Rose, you are saying what many of us have believed all along. Rita aka Sara King used you. Rita is a hateful bitch. I told her so in chat rooms.

When Rita/Sara was bragging in a chat room that she was on the inside with Patsy Ramsey and that someone close to Patsy was secretly against Patsy, (she hinted that it was one of Patsy's sisters) I knew then she was lying. Not about meeting Patsy but about everything else.
If anyone saveed those chat transcripts, they know I'm telling the truth. I had them saved but unfortunately I am unable at this time to find the disk I stored the chat transcripts on. But if I find the disk I will post the transcripts here and everyone can see what Rita was saying. I bet she will run like a scared rabbit if I post those.


#35, Responded to Rita
Posted by jameson on Feb-14-04 at 01:28 PM
In response to message #34
Rita's statements in plain script, jameson's in bold

let me set the record straight...My publisher did tell me I'd have books by February...that hasn't changed and the month isn't over yet. I have no reason to distrust it; yet I'm not going to die or go to hell if I don't have them on the last day of the month.

I believe Rita is not to be trusted at all so I don't know if there ever was a publisher - certainly am not going to trust her when she says she was told the books WOULD be on the shelves before March 1st.
In my mind, she may have gotten some publisher a bit interested - but when he read the forums he understood that the project was NOT in HIS best interest - and backed away. As for Rita not going to Hell if she should die... I wouldn't place bets against it. Not for me to judge, but as an innocent bystander... I wouldn't bet on Rita wearing wings.

It's been years and years and I'm too close to give up.

Then she needs to finance her own forum - stop using Rose.

As far as refuting what jameson accused me of on her forum I have NEVER NEVER NEVER said that John and Patsy killed their daughter.

If she says so.... guess it is all semantics.

I wasn't there, neither was she and no one else that is talking was either...

but Rita would put the Ramseys on trial in her book - - maybe she should just admit it is fiction - after all, she wasn't there, didn't see, doesn't know

All we can do is go with our own opinions and the evidence at hand. In my opinion they haven't done everything in their power to show their innocence. In fairness to them they don't have to; but then again, they must live with what the "public" feels about them......

Yes, they have to live with Rita out there - - they have no option

jameson if you are going to quote me get it straight or you'll be the one facing charges......

I believe I got it straight.

This is a public notice to jameson to stop harrassing me and twisting my words to try to convince people that I wrote the book with malice.

I have not harrassed Rita - but I will continue to use my right to free speech - if she publishes something in a public arena, I will respond as I wish. As for her writing the book with malice - - I believe she did and I will say so. I believe that if she went to court to defend herself against a charge of malicious conduct, her words to jameson, Lin, Lou and others will prove there was plenty of malace there. Vicious, cruel, malicious writing.

Now if she wants to rewrite her book and be all hearts and flowers, I will obviously be wrong - - but I don't think that will happen.

And I have the right to say so.

There has never been any malice whatsoever; in fact in my heart I would love to see actual and CONCRETE proof of an intruder and more importantly see one apprehended and convicted....Rita

Personally I don't believe a word of this. I think Rita is simply evil incarnate.

(Rose, I'm so sorry for what she has done to you-the book is still coming!-I don't control my publisher.....wish I did)

*gag*


#36, RE: Responded to Rita
Posted by jameson on Feb-16-04 at 03:38 PM
In response to message #35
Well, it seems Rose has figured out that Rita was never telling the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. I think Rita used Rose for 3 years - about time Rose woke up and saw the truth.

There were lots of hints that Rita was not sincere - the constant postponements, the refusal to name her publisher, even information from other posters gave huge clues..

Spade posted this message to Rita Johnson - denying HE was interviewed. "I notice that you post at the Voy forum as Rita Johnson, where you claim you have interviewed me about the Ramsey case. Please refresh my memory, I don't recall ever meeting you; much less being interviewed by you."

I posted similar things - no one from the publisher had contacted me to check any facts, for example.

So that book is gone.

I think Tom Miller's book is another.

There are others, too.

I finally think the BORG bs books have stopped.

About time.

Maybe now an honest book can be published - - but I still think we will have to wait for SickPuppy to be identified... I think publishers just don't want another book with no end.


#37, RE: Responded to Rita
Posted by Margoo on Feb-16-04 at 04:16 PM
In response to message #36
I wouldn't mind seeing an updated PMPT. Schiller has been and still is hanging around this case and a single source of "all", bringing the case up to date would be nice.

#38, RE: Responded to Rita
Posted by jameson on Feb-16-04 at 04:35 PM
In response to message #37
Schiller never had the cooperastion of the Ramseys or anyone close to them.

Maybe he could do a decent job if he sat and watched the interview tapes and studied the depositions and spoke to people again.

There is a lot more out there now....

I wonder if Charlie Brennan has thought about an update - - e worked with Schiller and got no credit - but he got an education and has never been far from the case.


#39, RE: Where's the beef?
Posted by Margoo on Feb-21-04 at 03:21 PM
In response to message #38
How can anyone take an author who makes much ado about nothing (like visiting and tidying up the gravesite) seriously? What would constitute the "BEEF" in a book written by someone as petty as that?