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1 back and look.
2 THE WITNESS: But anyway, this is
3 one of those that had a connection, in our
4 house.
5 MR. BECKNER: And that is the
6 type of thing that is particularly of
7 interest to us are people who have had
8 connections, because obviously there are a
9 lot of people that are going to write on the
10 internet and send letters and things.
11 THE WITNESS: Right. Yeah. I
12 mentioned a wealthy friend I visited, da-dah,
13 da-dah, da-dah, and then K**** said, yeah, I
14 know some rich people. Who? The Ramseys.
15 He seemed to have some sort of grudge
16 against you which he wouldn't explain.
17 But -- and this was March 2000. So I can
18 give you a copy of that.
19 In terms of the stuff that I have
20 been keeping track of, that's probably the
21 most interesting.

Now I know the BORG will say the Ramseys were
"throwing people under the bus" - but they were doing what they needed to do - - sharing tips with the authorities.

And this should help some realize that the BORG are lying when they say the Ramseys were trying to pin this on the housekeeper, the Whites or anyone else. The Ramseys didn't know who did this and they never pretended they did.

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1 think -- I can give you this too, but I
2 think you guys know about it.
3 MR. KANE: Who is that?
4 THE WITNESS: Well, I don't know.
5 She didn't give me a name.
6 Q. (By Mr. Kane) Her, the name of
7 the brother?
8 A. She doesn't, but she has an
9 e-mail address. Well, this actually came from
10 Jamison, who I am sure you guys are
11 painfully aware of. But I think she had
12 been communicating with this woman, or this
13 person who is a woman.
14 We had another lady write us that
15 her ex-husband did it, but in talking to
16 her, we decided she was really a woman
17 scorned.
18 MR. WOOD: We had everybody back
19 from John Kennedy calling.
20 THE WITNESS: Yeah, it got really
21 bizarre in the end. That's the kind of
22 thing I've been looking for, and that's what
23 I've learned, yet one of those for every
24 hundred that really are not particularly
25 interesting.

Three more people in the Ramsey files - Randy Simons - the photographer we all know about - - and the woman he was talking about was the poster Debradear. I sent her accusations to the Ramsey investigator and let him follow up on it. The third one was apparently not considered a serious lead by the Ramsey camp. But the name was there anyway if the cops wanted it.

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1 Q. What image have you seen?
2 MR. WOOD: That is a copy of it.
3 THE WITNESS: I don't know what
4 image I have seen, but it was on the
5 internet.
6 MR. TRUJILLO: Okay. I don't
7 know if this is the boot image of -- oh,
8 here it is, yes.
9 MR. WOOD: This is a copy.
10 MR. TRUJILLO: This is an image
11 off of the internet?
12 THE WITNESS: And yes, I don't
13 know --
14 MS. HARMER: And the internet,
15 the person who put it on the internet is
16 purporting it to be the actual footprint that
17 was found in the cellar?
18 THE WITNESS: Not necessarily.
19 His parents, Helgoth's parents finally turned
20 over his boots, which we turned over to you.
21 I don't know Helgoth. I don't know that
22 name. Whether or not there is any
23 significance there, I don't know.
24 MS. HARMER: I guess I am not
25 clear about where you got this image.

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1 THE WITNESS: The --
2 MR. WOOD: Ollie would be able to
3 tell us that.
4 THE WITNESS: Yeah, I don't know.
5 MR. WOOD: The image of the print
6 in the wine cellar.
7 MR. GRAY: I did that comparison
8 with glue.
9 THE WITNESS: But here is a guy
10 that ought to be looked at. I don't know
11 anything else about it, but he certainly
12 meets some of the factors that we find
13 interesting.
14 I still believe the September '97
15 incident is significant. I don't know what
16 you found on that, but that sent chills down
17 my spine when I read about that, heard about
18 that a month or two ago.
19 This person that has a shrine, I
20 think, had a cane, one of those candycanes
21 from my front yard in his home. I don't
22 know how he could have come by that after
23 the fact. It was secured December 25th.
24 Those are probably, in my mind,
25 the most interesting, substantial leads that

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Here we see the police more interested in how the image of the bootprint got online than in the suspect who owned the boots the Ramseys were just turning over to be studied and compared.

Helgoth is discussed.

The Charlevoix incident where some uninvited guest slept in the Ramsey house is mentioned, Kane and company don't engage in any conversation but let it slide.

And we hear about yet another suspect who I will call "the Candy Cane Man" - he has been around a long time and I don't know if he is cleared - - but he did have a candy cane from the front of the house and it seems that candy cane was missing from the earliest crime scene images...

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1 it.

Do we have this analysis? I wonder if it wasn't a poster or lurker - would love to read it myself.

Clearly the Ramseys were trying to share with LE at this time - - they went to the meeting honestly expecting to brainstorm - - had to be some disapointment.

Understand, Ollie was working on this part time - sometimes with John Sanagustin - he couldn't get to all of the tips. Hopefully LE could.

I question anything Burke said in the grand jury room that is not part of his memory in earlier interviews. I don't know if they may have confused him in the GJ room, shown him the actual bat and jogged his memory OR simply been lying in Atlanta.

Seems to me that if they are going to tell the Ramseys "this is a fact and we have this testimony", they should show the transcript. JMO

I'm disappointed that Vodicka didn't come up in the questioning.

This Dennis K guy----and the ankle bracelet! Another interesting one. A lot of people went through that house at one time or another.

I am having trouble interpreting this.

Is John saying he spoke directly with Dennis K****???? or with someone (else) named K***?

"He seemed to have some sort of grudge against **you** which he wouldn't explain." (??????) This statement is confusing. Can anyone clear the fog?

>"He seemed to have some sort of grudge against **you** which
>he wouldn't explain." (??????) This statement is
>confusing. Can anyone clear the fog?

I think John was reading from a letter he was sent - someone was telling John about a conversation he had with Dennis.

The man had the candy cane and I believe he told someone about it - - maybe even showed it to a person who called it in.

There were a few with "shrines" as i recall.

There were a few Boulder strange ones who has visions of JonBenét after the murder - - I hope they were checked out too.